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Federal Highways supports increased use of Roundabouts (here)
Highway Safety Organization reports that Georgia lost $7.8 Billion Dollars last year to accidents on Ga roads in 2006.
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road design options at Forest Hill Road using Roundabouts  (here)


    Forest Hill Road  

Macon, Ga

SOS forest

Option #1 by Ga DOT's contractor - MAAI

Design below is existing Ga DOT plan by Moreland-Altobelli Associates(website), Inc:
Moreland-Altobelli

This plan would destroy the neighborhood quality of surrounding areas:

Comment from Andy L. on 3-10-08 -
"Nobody at High Point North Condos wants the new entrance to
Northminster Drive, which would bring the road dangerously close to the entrance to High Point North, thus putting Northminster traffic too close to the older folks trying to get out of High Point North. It’s insane to do this and to destroy the whole forested area which is now in private hands and which is one of the watersheds for the whole area.  There have been NO accidents at the present intersection of Northminster and Wimbish in the 13 years I have lived at High Point North."  - Andy L.



Option #2

Option below shows how FHR and Northminster could easily be realigned into a 4-way intersection ( green is new alignment, red is existing Wimbish).  This can most probably be accomplished without damaging the house containing a Law Firm at the current intersection of FHR & Wimbish.


realign options
FHR & Wimbish would remain 2 lanes to the north. 
Southbound would be 3 lanes with intermittent planted medians to keep drivers from using the middle lane for illegal passing. . .


Option#3 FHR & Wimbish

    Another option below uses a safer/slower road design at Forest Hill Road, Wimbish, Northminster, Charter Drive (Northside Hospital), and Highland Park Apartments.
 6 Yeild signs  control traffic entering this divided boulevard.
At each end of the boulevard is a 20mph curve that looks something like 1/2 of a Roundabout. 


6 yeild signs

Above also shows Northside Hospital entrance with a safer exit for traffic wanting to travel north. 
http://www.roundabouts.net/
Michael Wallwork
you will have to imagine -   "half-roundabouts"

Roundabout_N-Decatur_Lullwater private iron fence

Map of location:

FHR_Roundabout_N-Decatur_Lullwater_Mao.jpg

Close-up below:

FHR_Roundabout_N-Decatur_Lullwater_Mao-closeup.jpg

Below shows Roundabout nearing end of construction.
Notice the care to protect shade trees: 

Roundabout_N-Decatur_Lullwater


Roundabout Resources:

in Kansas:
 https://www.ksu.edu/roundabouts

http://www.ksdot.org/burtrafficeng/Roundabouts/Roundabout_Guide/RoundaboutGuide.asp
10 minute video:
http://www.ksdot.org/burtrafficeng/Roundabouts/Roundabout_Guide/roundabout.wmv

Insurance Institute for Highway Safety - Promoting Roundabouts: 
http://www.hwysafety.org
http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr4009.pdf

Roundabouts USA
http://www.roundaboutsusa.com/

Pictures below from Michael Wallwork's website offering design expertise for Roundabouts:
http://www.roundabouts.net/

and

http://www.roundabouts.net/


in Wisconsin - here

in Alaska - here

Washington State Video here

7Lanes_or_1_Roundabout.JPG

Video (click) of fatal accident  that could have been prevented by a Roundabout. 
http://www.macon-bibb.com/FHR/FHR_Accidents2007May3s.jpg
Loss of control - Single vehicle accident on Forest Hill Road...  speeding may not have occured with traffic calming.  Click above for more data.

Roundabouts in the United States   http://trb.org/news/blurb_detail.asp?id=7086      

FHR_Accidents2007May3SignsDown.jpg
Speeding is reduced by traffic calming designs.  Click for more data.
 


http://www.hollidaydental.com/POH_Accident20070120.htm
This might not have occured if Forest Hill Road had traffic calming measures installed...

Posted on Sat, Apr. 21, 2007
http://www.macon.com/198/story/24026.html

Round and round about roundabouts

Local dentist and activist Lindsay Holliday still is pushing community leaders to install roundabouts on Forest Hill Road, calling them a safer alternative to red lights. Holliday and others also have pitched the circular road junctions as an alternative to widening Forest Hill.

Holliday's latest strategy: a little education.

It seems that Kansas City, Mo., will host the National Roundabout Conference next year, the purpose of which is "to fully inform a large audience about the science and application of roundabouts."

The conference is being put on by the Transportation Research Board, a division of the National Academies that advise policymakers on science, engineering and medicine matters.

Among the points of interest for conference-goers to enjoy while they are in town: the National World War I Museum, Negro Leagues Baseball Museum and, according to the fliers, "numerous roundabouts."

This week, Holliday urged Macon City Council members not to just listen to his advocation of the traffic circles but to make a trip to the conference and find out more for themselves.

"They don't have a reason to throw their research one way or the other," Holliday told the council.

Council members were not immediately responsive to the suggestion.

you wrote:

http://trb.org/conferences/2008/Roundabout/Call.pdf
 
TRB is sponsoring the National Roundabout Conference on May 18-21, 2008, in
Kansas City, Missouri.  The conference is designed to provide a forum for
the exchange of technical and administrative information concerning aspects
of roundabouts with the goal to inform a large audience about the science
and application of roundabouts.  A table-top exhibit will be held during
the conference.  The exhibit fee includes one complimentary conference
registration and a listing in the conference final program.  Space is
limited and reservations will be accepted on a first come, first served
basis.  Hotel reservations are now being accepted. Authors wishing to have
papers considered as part of the conference program must submit their
abstracts by June 25, 2007.



 
 
 

See Char: 

   Roundabout in Elligay, Georgia

Macon's Police Chief, Mike Burns visited Ellijay, Ga at end of October, 2005. He saw a roundabout in the middle of their town square. "I observed the traffic for 30 minutes and everything flowed smoothly."  

Here is an interesting article about this Roundabout at http://www.gwinnettforum.com/2003issues/03.0930.htm

See a nice zoom-in map of the 6-way intersection at http://maps.google.com

 


Citizens want Roundabouts

50 Neighbors meet on September 20th, 2005 at St Francis Church on Forest Hill Road to discuss a new plan for improving Forest Hill.

Forest Hill Neighborhood Stakeholders

They reach a consensus:   

- 95% of Forest Hill Road can remain 2-lanes by using Roundabouts at Ridge, at Wimbish, at Lokchoppee at Old Lundy (<-See Visual Preference Design Concepts) and at Forest Lake Drive - Newport Road.  

1. Roundabouts are markedly safer.

2. They move traffic faster by not holding it up at stop lights, especially when there is no intersecting traffic to justify the delay.

3. They tend to slow traffic between intersections by curving into the roundabout.

4. They are less expensive to maintain than traffic signals.

5. They reduce auto emissions -- Macon is already in trouble with EPA over air quality.

6. In this case the overall cost of the project would be dramatically reduced.

7. Grassy Swales will remain to better handle runoff - water is quicker to leave the roadway, then it is slowed and filtered before entering local streams - from which Bibb County derives its drinking water.






Mr Michael Wallwork, PE. undertook some analyses at Forest Hill Rd and Forsyth Rd.  He discovered a very good level-of-service with a two lane roundabout that only has one lane in each direction for the Forest Hill Road. Although a one lane roundabout with a right turn lane on the east leg is another option.   At Forest Hill and Forsyth only a one lane roundabout is required to provide excellent service.

Michale Wallwork designed  the road below with  3 lanes and a roundabout.  He suggests this design for Forest Hill Road:  [click on image to enlarge to 3MB]  

 Wallwork's suggestion for FHR  Wallwork's project in Florida

His reason for the three lane is that the traffic volumes are at the stage where getting in and out of the street becomes difficult and more unsafe. Increasing volumes will exacerbate the situation. By adding a third lane with medians, medias are a must, then left turn becomes safer and easier, trees are added to beautify the street and the median make road crossings by pedestrians much safer, they also fit better with roundabouts.

The FHWA project engineer in Atlanta should understand how roundabouts would save lives, and reduce right-of-way, construction costs and maintenance costs and how these cost reductions will pay for the minor redesign many times over. FHWA can consider the use of roundabouts with the addition of landscaped medians within the center turn lane.

Here is text RTF or DOC of letter to Bibb Commission Chairman, Charles Bishop.  It describes the advantages of changing the Forest Hill Road design.  It details how to save Money and Time, Who to contact, What to say to accomplish the change.

 contact:

Michael Wallwork   Alternate Street Design, P.A. (904) 269-1851  www.roundabouts.net

Roundabouts Meeting at City Hall on January, 31, 2006.   report:

Mr Michale Wallwork spoke about the modern uses of roundabouts to economically smooth the efficient and safe movement of traffic.   See his website at www.roundabouts.net  

The next morning, Mr Wallwork spoke to the Policy Committee of the Macon Area Transportation group.   There was general interest and some specific locations discussed to utilize roundabouts.  Mr Wallwork said that Forest Hill Road could be redesigned to benefit from roundabouts.  This would save time, money and it would use a smaller footprint, thus be friendlier to the neighborhood.  He later wrote a letter to Bibb Chairman, Charles Bishop - that letter can be viewed here - page 1 and 2.

 Forest Hill Road  and  a Great Blue Heron

A Think of Beauty is a Joy Forever   

A  Great Blue Heron

   Posted on Sat, Jan. 28, 2006 page 5B
http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/13732449.htm
CAUTION Macon hosts roundabouts expert
CAUTION Macon is hosting a one-hour meeting Tuesday to educate the public about roundabouts and to try to convince city and county officials that Macon and Bibb County need to start building them instead of stoplights and intersections.

"Our meeting is educational," said Lindsay Holliday, who is involved with the organization. "We want to cure the misapprehension of the public. The public is misinformed and has a misapprehension about roundabouts because they've seen all the old ones that are designed wrong."

To provide more information about the safety and usefulness of roundabouts, CAUTION Macon has invited Michael Wallwork, who has designed roundabouts in locations around the world.

"My objective is to help communities develop safer, more efficient and more attractive roads that better suit their current needs," Wallwork stated on his Web site. "To make streets and highways safer, we need medians, roundabouts, traffic calming and new people-friendly road designs."

Holliday said he hopes Wallwork's presentation of slides and video will help the public overcome its fear of stereotypes and encourage public officials to change the way they think about constructing local roads.
- Keich Whicker

  


 "... Estimates of what can be expected with roundabout  intersections...

A key finding is that vehicle delays at the 10 intersections would have been reduced by 62-74 percent, saving 325,000 hours of motorists’ time annually.


Fuel consumption would have gone down by about 235,000 gallons per year,
and there would have been commensurate reductions in vehicle emissions..."

 - from Nov 2005 report of the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety  (www.iihs.org)

  Blog 
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2007/09/04/roundabouts_0905.html

Cobb considers circular solution for traffic woes


The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 09/05/07

As metro Atlanta searches for more ways to solve its traffic tie-ups, governments are reaching for lessons from across the pond.

The latest solution is to keep traffic moving, albeit slowly.

It is the roundabout, popular in Europe.

Cobb County is considering building its first roundabouts, in the western section of the county on Villa Rica Road, which handles nearly 11,000 vehicles per day.

The single-lane roundabouts proposed for west Cobb would have a diameter of about 115 feet and cost close to $1 million, including acquiring rights of way. They would be financed by the county's 1 percent sales tax approved by voters in 2005, county officials said.

County officials are testing public sentiment about installing two roundabouts on Villa Rica, one at West Sandtown Road and another about 150 yards east at Irwin Road.

"The roundabouts are safer than traffic signals, and they operate as efficiently," said Joe Fletcher, a Cobb traffic engineer, who made a presentation recently in the west Cobb neighborhood.

Anne Guerrero, who lives off West Sandtown, wasn't buying the concept. She drives the intersection at least twice most days, and sees the traffic on Villa Rica is nearly double that of West Sandtown.

"The dominant flow will control the circle," said Guerrero. "They need to put a light in there."

But another commuter was more open to the idea.

"It seems like traffic would flow better. I'd lean toward a roundabout," said David Gallion, who lives in a subdivision off West Sandtown.

DeKalb County put in a roundabout on North Decatur and Lullwater roads, and is moving forward on another at North Decatur and Oxford Road, at the entrance to the Emory University campus.

Atlanta has installed smaller versions on Peachtree Hills Avenue, more to slow traffic than regulate intersections. A roundabout is the focus of Smyrna's rebuilt town center, and a few smaller circular islands dot subdivisions and shopping centers.

The state has built roundabouts in Douglas and Dawson counties. Both are fairly new.

Proponents cite a 39 percent decrease in total crashes, with a 76 percent reduction in serious crashes and a drop of 89 percent in crashes that are fatal or produce incapacitating injuries.

The statistics are drawn from a federal study of 24 roundabouts that replaced traffic signals or stop signs.

Critics claim multiple-lane roundabouts lead to more side-swipe accidents and that roundabouts can be disorienting, especially for new and elderly drivers. After installing roundabouts, Columbia, Mo., posted instructions on its Web site telling motorists how to negotiate the traffic device.

The west Cobb roundabouts would replace a four-way stop at Villa and West Sandtown, which carries about 6,000 vehicles each day, and a stop sign on Irwin Road, which sees about 4,000 vehicles daily. A street from a subdivision under construction also will dump traffic onto Villa Rica across from Irwin and flow into the circle.

The Villa Rica/West Sandtown intersection is at its worst in the evening when west-bound traffic on Villa Rica can back up for 500 yards and spill onto Barrett Parkway.

The roundabouts keep traffic moving because the typical speed to enter a roundabout is 10 to 15 mph.

Drivers still move, instead of sitting at a stop sign or traffic signal.

Single-lane roundabouts can handle up to 18,000 vehicles daily, according to Bill Baranowski, a traffic engineer in suburban Salt Lake City, who said he has helped design 88 roundabouts in a dozen states.

How difficult could it be for metro Atlantans to learn to drive roundabouts?

Cobb resident Gallion has an answer:

"Welcome to Atlanta," he said. "We don't know how to drive anyway."

article:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2007/09/04/roundabouts_0905.html


A Magic Roundabout in Swindon, England



You Tube - Roundabout Videos:
 
Very entertaining:
Music Video +++
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXi-b77oRA8&NR=1
Modern Roundabout in Clifton, NJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZJHvjMu_z0
Roundabout in Chattanooga TN 
12.wdef.com
well produced

Another music Video
- girl-band vocals "spinning around" with a disco beat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guixyA0rz_M&NR=1
 It's all about "ENGLAND ROUNDABOUTS and Driving on the WRONG Side of the Road!!"


Racing around the roundabout - -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nijZZfjHGdw&NR=1
How to go effect(ive)ly through a roundabout? - sideways skid
 

Clovis, NM Roundabout Crash  (Single Car with brain dead driver)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jesf4xFOg1Q&NR=1


why do we have traffic lights ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WU8hilbN9Y&feature=related

Big Crash at Vietnamese Intersection
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIFc6RmKUWU&NR=1
Amazing!

Big Crash at Russian Intersection
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r5bClOqhjQ&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2n_XEBasQg
Roundabout with Miss Kittin - Disco Rave - TimeLapse into headlight evening dusks of northern wintry climes
http://www.roundabouts.ca/



Roundabouts in Ladera Ranch, Orange County, CA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpcQe7RwEkY&NR=1
SIlent sped-up landscaped nicely

A world without traffic lights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mefb3Y2gGw
England multiple rounds sped-up silent w subtitled wisdom


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